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RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:34 pmby Blueyonder (deleted)
Hi Randa,
well, we bought the van new June 2010 and had it converted quick enough to do a month in it that September - France, Switzerland & Italy. We had a sabbatical from work in 2011 and spent 4 months of the summer in S Europe in it, across the Alps/Dolomites mainly, as far east as Slovenia but went down as far as mid Italy and did quite a bit of France. We had the Fiamma wind out awning blown off during a storm on Lake Bled at 2am, wrecking it and damaging the van (£1000 to replace it and repair the van when we go home :( ). We also later had to make a sudden dash home due to a family bereavement, whereas we planned to be away 6 months, so we missed our leg down to Croatia and across on the ferry to Italy :(. Despite this, we had a blast, but it is these long trips where you get 'van fever' and thoughts of a caravan begin to surface!! We managed a month in 2012 and a month this year and of course do long weekends here in the UK. We also take the van out when walking or cycling anywhere, even just for the day, as we keep all our walking gear in it and its ready packed with changes of clothing and tea/coffee etc. so we can just get in it and go.
We usually do a long haul trek of some kind between Jan & March and also we sleep in the roof of the van (brrrrr!!) which means sadly that the van is laid up for like 4 months each winter, but I hope the Eriba will get us out more in the winter as it will be more comfortable in the cold.
The pic was taken in Orpierre - Hautes Alps, where I would lay in bed in the morning watching the rock climbers go up the face behind before it got too hot, lovely little place. I haven't decided our route for next year but there is one thing I would like to see that I haven't yet and that's the Millau Viaduct, so we might do the Pyrenees again (for the first time in years), and do that on the way. We have never toured Spain by road, been there on holiday in planes of course but saving that road trip for full retirement, as I would want at least 3 months to do Spain and Portugal together. I started to do a blog, for my family to keep track of us really, but I haven't updated it at all in over a year, I must do that. If you are interested its Simon & Lesley's Travels
You will see that we are pretty much obsessed with mountains! Especially this one:
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I am up for tips on touring anywhere, together with the do's and don'ts for newbies with a caravan!!
Lesley
RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:57 pmby Steamdrivenandy (deleted)
That's reminded me of our time with our campervan.
We searched high and low for a van that met our needs and eventually alighted upon a Horizons Unlimited Innovation 1. These are Ford Transits converted by the Pegg Brothers in Tamworth. In the case of the Innovation 1 they use a standard roof short wheelbase Tranny with the Liftback door, rather than barn doors and cut the roof off, replacing it with a purpose moulded taller roof, specially sculpted at the front, with a large Heki rooflight amidships and a smaller one towards the rear. That provides internal headroom of around 6ft 5ins. The engines can be any of those available on the Transit as can be the trim etc., we had the 125PS engine, which was the most powerful at the time (2006). An SWB Transit is a tad under 16ft long, about the same length as a Range Rover.
The Innovation range was a spin-off from HU's Cavarno vans with a change in furniture layout. Like the Cavarno there were two swivelling seats up front and behind another pair if seats that dropped down into benches at the push of a button. Between these two rear seats was a gangway to the rear with kitchen on the offside which had a compressor fridge, with gas locker for a 907 underneath and a floor cupboard with cutlery drawer. On the work surface was a combined sink and hob unit, the gas/electric hot water boiler being fitted under the offside rear seat. Opposite the kitchen was a loo room with a proper swivel Thetford, a mirror and light. The full height folding door for this area could be swung across the gangway for privacy. Next to the loo room was a half height wardrobe with shelves and hanging space. There was a removable slab of kitchen worktop between the wardrobe and the kitchen which meant the work space was much larger than most similar vans. Under this worktop was a 2ft deep open space or boot between the van's rear wheel arches, that could be used for all sorts of gear. In our case it was home to a couple of bearded collies in a purpose-made crate.
At roof level the was a big locker over the van's cab which housed a bolster that acted as a seat back when the offside rear seat was extended to a bench and it also filled the central gangway when you wanted to have a big double bed instead of two singles. Standard issue was two further roof lockers above the kitchen on the offside but our van had a further matching pair forward of the kitchen, making an impressive row of four. There was a centre leg table supplied and the leg clipped into the rear wardrobe with the top sharing the overcab roof locker. To use the table you swivelled the drivers seat round and ate facing each other on the offside. As an option we had a diesel fired warm air heater fitted in the front passenger seatbase and this kept us snug through some very frosty nights. A further natty option was two flexible armed LED reading lights in the cab which had a centre red light when switched off, so you could find them in the dark. A tap on the red light and they burst into white life.
A beautifully built van, but after nearly 3 years we got cabin fever and moved on to something slightly larger.
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RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:45 pmby Deeps (deleted)
Well you're view of the mountain was certainly better than the one that we got presented with. 
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RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:28 pmby Blueyonder (deleted)
Deeps, if it is any consolation, we have walked a whole day, sometimes much longer, numerous times to get a good view of a mountain, only for the clouds to come over and spoil things. The photo of the Matterhorn in the lake was hard work to come by. No cablecar or train for us, just a very long slog on foot from Zermatt totalling about 10 hours, for which I sacrificed a big toenail with the friction in my boot on the way down (gross I know but I like to work for a reward!). This summer on the way home from Barolo we took a detour up to Breuil Cervinia to get the closest view of the Matterhorn from the Italian side... it was almost like you could touch it, and the perfect picnic spot at the Blue Lake for a rest afterwards - and there was hardly anyone else up there.
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I bl**dy love mountains :)
RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:16 amby Randa france •
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‘morning both.
Wow, have really enjoyed what we’ve read so far about your expeditions. Don’t thinks there’s many, if any, on here can top that.
We’ve been thinking about the differences you might find next year when your new Eriba is pushing your T5 around Europe.
Firstly, insurance. When you have a valuable combination to worry about you have to remember that either your Eriba or your T5 might become undrivable when they are not together.
It’s generally considered that the Caravan Club European Insurance package, “Red Pennant” is the best one to choose. Not only does it offer good personal cover but it’s the only company that has confirmed that it will repatriate both vehicles in the event of breakdown, whether they are together or they are apart (Eriba at camp site, T5 on top of a mountain somewhere, 50 miles distant).
However, Red Pennant doesn’t come cheap. CC membership is now about £50 pa and we pay around £250 for three months European cover.
Motorway Travel in France. Unfortunately, unless you’re towing a Puck, you will have to pay about 50% extra on Peages for the Eriba. They are set up on a height charge scale. The T5 is probably a tad less than 2 metres high which is Category One. The Eribas (Puck excluded) are 2.2 metres high so Category Two.
Mover. We presume you’ll have a mover fitted to your Eriba although not everyone does. We haven’t got one on our Troll but must admit that it would be really handy to have one.
With a mover, your Eriba will follow your T5 into most of the tightest corners of Europe you will want to go to. There are many on here who have found themselves almost wedged up a narrow lane and have extricated themselves by unhitching and turning the Eriba around on the mover. Eribas are fairly easy to reverse but because they are a bit shorter than other caravans they are a bit over responsive to reverse steering.
Awnings. You’ve not mentioned whether you are purchasing an awning with your new Eriba? There is a selection of different shapes and sizes in the Awning Photo Gallery. We suppose that if you intend to use your Eriba as a “Base Camp” and go out and about in the T5 then an awning would be a useful addition. They are fairly easy to erect once you get the hang of it and if you intend staying on a camp site for more than a few days, the additional space they bring is a godsend.
Electrics. The Eriba is dual polarity so no worries about that dodgy French Electric Hook Up. However, if you are using an additional hook up lead for outside use then check the polarity. One member of this forum has a solar panel fitted to the roof of his Eriba and he swears by it. He has talked about it on here recently.
When we go on our extended trips abroad, we also carry a domestic table top freezer and plug it in when we get to site. When we move on it remains frozen for at least eight hours until we arrive at the next camp site. I think we are alone with this idea but we find that we can last for up to 7 days without doing a food shop.
Others use various electric cooking appliances like slow cookers, halogen ovens, induction cookers etc to take advantage of the electricity that is often offered free when camping abroad. However, as you probably know, the further south you go the fewer amps you get.
Take a 25 metre extension for your hook up cable as EHU’s are often “just out of reach” for caravans.
ACSI Not sure what type of camp site you prefer but have you ever used the ACSI accredited camp sites? If you travel off season then these camp sites offer a degree of luxury for a maximum of 16 Euros per night. ACSI membership is only about £12 a year and it more than pays for itself within the first week of camping. http://www.campingcard.co.uk/gb/en/europe/
Millau. We’ve visited Millau three times now, once before the bridge and twice since. It really is spectacular. There was a “Discovery TV” programme showing its construction a few years ago which was fascinating to watch. Did you know that the tallest stanchion is higher than the Eiffel Tower?
In the town of Millau there are several riverside camp sites with good facilities and great views of the bridge. You are also very close to the Tarn Gorges which offer much “off piste” exploring.
Pyrenees. We’ve only taken the Eriba there once. We stayed at a nice camp site (Campsite Le Rey) in Louvie-Juzon which is to the south of Pau.
Hopefully others will be able to give you some more ideas.
Randa
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RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:05 pmby Randa france •
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Oh, one more thing I've remembered. Get a set of VW mud flaps fitted to your T5. Looks like it's got a short tail end and you don't want road debris chucking up on your new Eriba.
They'll probably cost about the same as for our Touran which was about £160.
Randa
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RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:40 pmby Blueyonder (deleted)
Hi Andy, had chance to look at your pics, nice van! I like the fact you can walk through (well, when the dogs aren't in it!). Ours is currently a walkthrough as we have no rock and roll seat bed in the back, as there is just the two of us and we sleep up the top (more room up there). We can also get both bikes in there when we are going off for the day, as I am sometimes not happy leaving them on the bike rack even though locked and chained (had one chained up and stolen in Avignon with bolt croppers in broad daylight). No loo either and the old man not only has to brave the elements at night but he has to climb down first and climb back into bed again after!
RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:43 pmby Blueyonder (deleted)
Hi Randa, what a helpful post, thankyou very much.
Love the pic of the viaduct and yes I did see the documentary, thought it amazing.
I have been looking at the insurance and will let you know if I find any particularly good options for our combination. I had heard of Red Pennant but that's like a holiday insurance right? that you only take out only whilst you're away, i.e. on top of your standard motor policy? I am going to add the caravan to our current campervan insurance until it expires in May, as we wont be going outside the UK until then. We live next door to Wales and from Feb-May we're going to take every weekend in Gods country (Hubby is Welsh lol) to practice travelling with the Eriba close to home. Neither of us has towed before. Does anyone recommend the lessons offered by the CC & CCC? Once we've got the towbar fitted I was going to borrow a trailer and go to an industrial estate at weekends with some cones and practice!!
We bought at the NEC (we had already made the decision to buy) and the show offer was a free Reich mover or £1000 off, we took the £1000 off. We are both quite strong (I am 6'2" & taller than hubby!) fit, in mid 50's and thought we'd see how we get on first rather than pay £1000 for something we don't need.
We have a wind out Fiamma on the van and we've never wanted a proper awning, despite the vans small size. Also, given our storm experience with the last wind out awning, I am none too sure about the zip on sides you can get for them to make a 'room'. We can park the van either at right angles or parallel to the Eriba so the wind out awning gives shelter between the two and covers both doors. We use a pop up festival tent for storage with the van (and to mark the pitch as we have had our pitch stolen whilst we've been out for the day!) so we can dispense with that when using the Eriba.
Re the electrics, the van is going back to the convertors to have the towbar fitted and I am hoping that we can have just one hookup for both vehicles. I don't really understand electrics so I'll have to ask them for the best options as they installed the van electrics. We never have enough room in one fridge, so will use both - so both leisure batteries will need to be charging, which may be challenging on one hookup in France! I'll see what they say. We don't have an oven and never missed one yet. We have a Cadac, as I wont have meat or anything fried in the van, but the old man loves cooking outside (something primeval in it for men I think!). One of the joys of touring for me is buying fresh food almost daily, but when we're on retirement income we need to be a bit more cost effective! Just fresh croissants and a baguette daily from an artisan baker is over 5 euros a day.
I did know about the Peage :( but we do try to avoid them anyway to be honest. We only regularly use the bit in between Calais/Dunkirk and Reims, or to avoid large cities - especially the Italian ones! (we drove through Turin once...OMG
!!)
I never thought about the mudflaps, good idea! although why they are so expensive is a mystery to me! I also need to get a cover. We have a double garage and neither the van or the Eriba will fit in it. Mind you, if they did, I'm not sure I would know what to do with all the stuff that is currently in it !!
We do use an ASCI card and we are really looking forward to getting the most out of these when we've properly retired and are touring for long periods.
All this talk of holidays.... I wanna go now!!!
RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:15 pmby Randa france •
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Hi Both.
The simplest way to run power to both the Eriba and the T5 from one EHU is by using a splitter .
The mud flaps are probably 1000% overpriced because they have a VW part number 
Don't know whether you've been there or not but I think many people on here can recommend http://fforestfields.co.uk/ It's not far from you and has fantastic facilities and lovely owners. Plenty of walks and off road biking and a good place to try everything out.
I'm sure you'll be OK with towing. When we picked our van up from Automotive Leisure for the first time, rather than head north for the M4 we drove west to Dorchester, then Yeovil and on to the M5 at Taunton. We think that way out of Dorset has better and wider roads to gain confidence in towing. Really though you'll find that your Eriba has only a slightly bigger profile than your T5 so if that will fit through the gap then the Eriba will too.
As non-mover people the only advice we can give is to park the Eriba so that the tow vehicle will have at least one driving wheel on the roadway or park so that you tow off the pitch slightly down hill although if you're 6' 2" I'm not going to argue with you if you disagree with me
Randa
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in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:30 pmby Aaron Calder •
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I found that my trailer and my caravan are completely different to reverse. The trailer responds much more quickly and is very easy to jackknife whereas the Triton does everything slower and is much better behaved.
I had never towed a caravan before the Eriba but after one weekend away 20 miles from home we "did a Randa" and took it to the South of France for a month to celebrate my retirement.
After a while, I guarantee that there will be times when you completely forget that you have a caravan in tow. Eribas really are stable and very well-mannered on all types of road.
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RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:44 amby Randa france •
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RE: RE:Eriba Touring Advice
in Where did you go, what did you do, who did you meet? Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:47 amby Blueyonder (deleted)
Not expecting it until the end of the month.... which is just as well, as I haven't arranged the fitting of the towbar to the van yet!... or the insurance.....or the mudflaps. I need to be more organised!
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