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Meaning of plate

in We've got it down to a T Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:30 pm
by Ubarrow •

| 52 Posts

IMG_1102.jpeg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)I've just become the proud owner of a 535 Troll! The plate has two figures on it:

MTPLM 1300kg
MRO 100kg

Picture enclosed.

I think this means it has not been uprated to 1400kg, which I believe was a popular extra
Does this mean I can carry 100kg of payload in the van (towing vehicle allowed)?
Does this include 2 gas bottles?

Thanks in advance......

PeterIMG_5795.jpeg - Bild entfernt (keine Rechte)

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RE: Meaning of plate

in We've got it down to a T Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:41 pm
by eribaMotters •

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The empty weight of a basic 535 was 1020kg. This excluded extras such as spare wheel, battery, sprung upholstery etc. If you look at your owners manual you should find a list of the weights for extra fittings and you will be surprised at what they include and how they soon add up. If you visit the configurator page of the Eriba website then you'll also be able to get a good idea of what these items were and weights. Yes this would be for a 2025 van, but weights have changed very little.
Regarding the weights plate, you have the 1300kg model. The 100kg refers to the maximum load the hitch can take. This is probably immaterial as most cars generally have a max tow bar load of 78 to 80kg.
I think you may find the attached weights sheet useful, one for my now sold 2017 Triton 430 and the other for my current 2022 Feeling 425. As I said above, you will be surprised at the weights.

Colin

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RE: Meaning of plate

in We've got it down to a T Mon Jun 09, 2025 10:30 pm
by Ubarrow •

| 52 Posts

Thanks Colin, I�ve now found the document for my van, as supplied. My German is a little rusty but it appears to be giving me a weight of 1076 which would mean I can have a payload of 224kg?
Picture added to original post.
But I�ll have to add the motor mover and gas bottles to this I guess?
I suppose a trip to the weighbridge is really the only safe way forward?
Peter

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RE: Meaning of plate

in We've got it down to a T Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:53 am
by Steamdrivenandy •

| 1.123 Posts

I'm not sure why Hymer structured their weight plates in the way they have.
The MTPLM has to be specified because a van may be downplated from its axle limit, indeed most UK made vans are.
However usually Axle 1 is the noseweight limit, Axle 2 the main axle limit on a single axle van and Axle 3 the limit on the second axle on a twin axle van.
So where Hymer get Axle 0 from is odd plus where 'MRO' fits, which normally means Mass in Running Order, is a mystery.

In this case the hitch has a 100kg weight limit and both the axle and MTPLM limits are 1300kg.

One thing to note is that if the van has the Autonomy package fitted that includes the weight of the battery as supplied as part of that option. Obviously if the battery has changed then the weight may be marginally different.

Also, with regard to gas cylinders, the MIRO regulations stipulate that an amount should be allowed for gas, but it doesn't stipulate how much should be allowed. Convention with UK manufacturers has alighted on10kg and as a full 6kg Calor cylinder weighs 14kg it's obvious that running with a pair of full 6kg Calor cylinders will use 18kg of payload. I'm not sure what allowance Hymer use in MIRO for gas.

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