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RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:20 am
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

Thank you! A bit slow, as I work on it in the evenings and it is quite cold outside (3-4 days 1deg C max, then 3-4 days 8-12deg).
One question: where can I find classic 13" wheels and caps? I have looked on ebay, googled... No pair available. I don't want alloy wheels, however new steel wheels for trailer are available quite cheap, but they do not look so good... OR maybe at least the caps, I'm sure I can find a way to mount them to new wheels.


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#32

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:27 am
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

I forgot to mention, I also took out the front windows and repaired that area. I was surprised that it had some kind of sealer all around, but it was all hardened. It was even in the window seals to body. I'm glad I took them out, a lot of water was coming in that way, and I will use Sika 710 to seal them properly.
Sika 529at in between body panels, aluminum trims and body, floor to chassis etc. All these sika products seems to remain flexible over time (don't know how it will look like after 40 years, though).
And I got all the parts needed, and a large variety of stainless steel screws (I made a list of all I have removed).


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#33

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:23 am
by eribaMotters | 5.328 Posts

Sika products are excellent and well worth the expense when you consider the lengths you are going to.
I do not recall seeing nice chrome hub caps as a standard Eriba fit on 13" wheels, just the smaller 10" found on early Pucks. It could however be worth making contact with https://retrocaravanstuff.com/
Failing that, could you consider making the not so attractive steel wheels better looking by having then powder coated?

Colin


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#34

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:31 am
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

Colin, I am already in contact with Darren. I bought from him before, now I am also waiting for some info on different trim mouldings I need. I will ask about wheel caps. In the mean time I found some nice option with stainless steel Moon caps from Germany, at ~100Euro/pair. They might look good and classic.


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#35

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:50 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.328 Posts
Wenn Sie hier auf Links zu eBay klicken und einen Kauf tätigen, kann dies dazu führen, dass diese Website eine Provision erhält.

If your wheels are 12" then these might be of use:-
Werbung: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115371060745?...ABk9SR8iTlZGmYQ

Colin


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#36

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:59 am
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

I've seen those, and several other models, but I have 13" wheels (actually 14 now, but I will swap). I will wait a bit to see if any set of wheels and caps make their way to ebay or similar, otherwise I will just buy the easily available new trailer wheels and moon caps.


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#37

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:25 pm
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

Small update, the floor is done, I have to test fit it, trim, seal with resin and final fit. Just two pics how I did it on the inside. I used 12mm tego on top instead of the original 6mm, then 19mm wood spacers and Armaflex insulation, then 4mm tego on the bottom to close it.
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#38

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:33 pm
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

And another update: I test fitted the new floor, it fits very well. But it's 27 kilos heavier, I guess the double thickness top plate takes it's toll. Well worth it, overall. Now it's out again, just a few spots to touch and resin seal all cuts.
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Also, I have changed the red ground wire from plug to splitter box to brown, as I am used to in automotive. I know it is built in France and that french automotive uses different color coding, but it's easier for me. Remember my second drive with it, when it took me 5 or more freaking hours to figure out why I had no lights, and almost did not leave for the first car show due to that?


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#39

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:00 pm
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

No new pictures to post, but a lot of work done: all aluminum body panels are back in place, they fit with minimal (~2mm at most) difference. seam sealed with Sika 529. Windows are back on, sealed with Sika 710. Door is back on. I had some trouble, because I reinforced the pillars in vertical direction while I changed the bottom frame metal, but I have not added a cross reinforcement. Therefore, one of the pillars moved by ~2mm, making the door pass hard the seal. I elongated the bottom hinge holes by 1mm and all fits well now.
Next: put back the thermal insulation on the walls. I bought 20mm expanded polystyrene and 6mm extruded poly. I hope the harder one can still be bent in shape without breaking.
I'm also looking for a solution to either convert the fridge to compressor or buy a new one with compressor. It takes much less power on 12V, and it shall cool better, so I can use it while driving, but also on battery. I hope the 85Ah is enough, as I also have a solar panel.


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#40

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:14 pm
by eribaMotters | 5.328 Posts

With the amount of work you are putting in and the age of the current fridge I would be looking at a new fridge instead of trying to convert it. A new fridge should also have better insulation and require less energy to run.
As regards the energy, you will not be able to run the fridge off your 85amp/hr battery for very long. You may get 1/2 a day and then the battery would be exhausted, possibly at such a low level that if you repeated the process the battery would very soon be wrecked. You need a permanent 230v to 12v set-up. A battery charger running the fridge through the battery would be the way to go.
You could start by looking here for inspiration:- https://clearcutconversions.co.uk/produc...ampervan-parts/

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#41

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:44 pm
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

I found two Opel wheels that look right! Now to find some hubcaps. I also bought a new trailer wheel to use as spare.
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Any ideas what was the original color for wheels? RAL 9001 maybe?

On the fridge: I know it will not be so efficient to convert the old one, but I want it to look right. The ones I find with the same dimensions are either black or white, and I do not think I can swap just the door from ours... Also, I will have 220v to 12v converter, most probably I will not be "off camping" so much. Anyway it is more efficient, even if I lose the independence given by gas supply.



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#42

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:02 am
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

Again no pictures, as there is not much to be seen. I put back all insulation: 20mm polystyrene between frame bars, fixed by poly adhesive to the outer sheet metal, then another 6mm extruded poly covering everything, plus the wheel wells. It was nice an flexible, so I could do all corners very clean.



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#43

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:57 am
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

Is there a good source of windows? I am looking for the rear one which is broken, size is approximately 115.5cmx63cm (with frame). Maybe off some other caravan models? I did not find an exact match yet, only close which needed modification.
Also looking for a pair of hubcaps (I asked on several fb groups...)


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#44

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:26 pm
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

I installed the red rubber bead around the door. It looks so nice with some color compared to the grey one! Anyway I had to chnage all trim, because the old rubber was brittle. I am waiting for the 15mm one from Darren.
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#45

RE: New owner, 81 Pan

in Hi. Please take a couple of minutes to say hello here Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:43 pm
by RaduBunea | 29 Posts

I couldn't bear the thought that I would pin the upholstery and not take some pics beneath. So here they are. Insulation done.
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Then I pinned down the vinyl and placed the rubber trim.
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